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hello my name is James Randi I want if

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you graduate my good friend Richard

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Sanders on over 500 episodes of the

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skeptic zone podcast I've been on there

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many times and over the last 10 years

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it's been a good adventure I must say

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thank you Richard we need more of you go

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welcome to the skeptic zone the podcast

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from Australia for science and reason

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yuria hosts Richard Saunders and Stefan

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well welcome back to bxe - you know

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you're all the time I'm here Val quite

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really these days and it's great to be

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this episode oh I think there's a very

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very special reason for being here

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tonight and and I think you might have

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to explain exactly why I'm here what

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episode is it 500 what the 500th episode

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unbelievable I mean just think when we

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first started like we our language

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remember the first episode we did other

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intro eight something like seven cycle

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along geared land

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he hopeful sickle Imam good line now

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wait wait wait wait how long ago there

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the Napoleonic Wars then we had like the

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it seems like a hundred he is Richard I

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for five hundred years but five hundred

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well congratulations even that seems

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like a long time five hundred episodes

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own Studios we're actually in the alcove

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vaccination clinic which is in a couple

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digital media is taken over and and

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vaccination supporters so but it's too

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doctors clinic here i josh josh from the

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same skeptics appreciate how you going

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vaccination the flu jab flu vaccinations

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like The Beatles there they just walking

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committee already to have their

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vaccinations it's a wonderful glorious

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is Trish hat what a wonderful shirt you

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leave it to the pharmacies the the

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pharmacists themselves to decide whether

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they stock homeopathy or not so yeah

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it's still fleecing people it's taking

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their money it's giving them magic pills

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but they don't do anything so yeah it's

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a bit of a disappointment so we will see

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what happens going we are doing well by

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and large yeah we are getting there yeah

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but I'm we're following the the UK they

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seem to be kicking a few more goals than

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us at the moment very well okay now

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hello what's this Trish you know you're

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you know you just brought out a red

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syringe it looks interesting

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I'm sure it's full of blood yes

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yeah it does it doesn't look like but

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can you explain what's going on here

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well as you can see we have several

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muffins several it's a table full of

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muffins well I can't do maths which

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there is a very real possibility there

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should be 40 more and there are 40 of

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these describe them Richard there

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they're real syringes folks they're

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quite big ones but they're filled with

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strawberry and caramel oh it looks

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fantastic and the muffins folks I wish

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you could be here to look at this the

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table of muffins Oh now

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Tricia's just stuck a syringe into a

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muffin another syringe goes into the

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chocolate muffin I've never seen

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anything like this folks I must take a

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photograph well if nothing else this is

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a creative day I'd must say we all get

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started with vaccinations very soon we

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have lots of vaccinated muffins at the

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frontier so you said after you've got to

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earn your reward though so so after were

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vaccinated you please feel free as long

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as you're not allergic to muffins then

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that'll be all right

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if you can fill out the forms that are

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round mainly just the top bit like

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Medicare details if you've got them and

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like deta birth name and come up with

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middle I just asked you a few questions

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to make sure that we're all really ready

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to go make sure that there's no major

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allergies or any other problems we've

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got lots of vaccines here there's been a

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shortage around Australia at the moment

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but we've got we've got plenty at the

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clinic here today so that's all good

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yeah if there's any questions please ask

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me before I'm vaccinating you to make

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sure that we're all clear but yeah thank

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you so much for supporting community

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immunity in Australia and particularly

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around Sydney where we are here so just

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really really important both for

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yourself and for your family members too

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and the big question is who wants to go

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first Richard has decided that my name's

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on the top of the list you can be my

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okay the day's going very well I was

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some the guinea pig I had my first Tim

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Mendham was in line to get his flu jab

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yes yes I am extremely nervous but I'll

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be fine I think I think I'll I'll

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survive the Reds very good at it doctor

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most very good in fact someone just said

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there we're a bit nervous about having

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the shot they just had it and they say

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this idea you know yeah I know I know

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something is you get over it I think

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pretty quickly you do but it's a great

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turn up the room is full of people I

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think they're all here for their muffins

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quite frankly the doctor breads doing a

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great job catching up with Lara here

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who's hoeing into her lovely muffin and

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she's also like like me she's received a

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temporary tattoo your says hug me I've

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had the flu vaccine mine says I'm a flu

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fighter and I think the Foo Fighters

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listeners all no but it was what

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everybody saying was entirely painless

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yeah every year I'm a teacher and the

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kids are filthy and no in all

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seriousness though it's obviously rife

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for picking things up at school things

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circulate very very quickly so I always

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get the flu vaccine every single year

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yeah

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and the day is going very well it's been

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going for over an hour about an hour now

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and people are all still gathered here

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in fact everyone has had their

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vaccination is still here

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in fact no-one's really running out the

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door which I think they're here for the

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muffins quite frankly though yeah mine

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was pretty good now I'm just walking

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outside again to the street I'm standing

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outside the doctors clinic and the

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reason I'm here is because there was a

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core put out on Facebook a couple of

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weeks ago for people to come here and

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pick it this event to protest with

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banners and signs and make noise and

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whatever and I'm on the street now and

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there is not a soul there are cars

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whizzing by

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few people here and they're going about

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their business but the protesters must

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have all stayed home in then maybe

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they've got the flu well I must say the

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day is a terrific success lots of people

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here still waiting to get their

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injection from dr. Brad we've had live

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views on Facebook on the Estonian

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skeptics Facebook site and people are

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now getting their temporary tattoos

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which is a lot of fun so from the

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Australian skeptics vaccination flu

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vaccination day this is richard signing

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[Music]

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welcome to the 500th episode of the

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skeptic zone a great moment in Australia

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up there with the death of Billy Sneden

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and some other great things that happen

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that are really good that were not good

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so that was tragic the death of Billy

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Steadman was a tragic thing for

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Australia but the 500th episode of the

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sceptic zone is a great thing for

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Australia stand-up Australia now sit

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down and welcome who've we got here

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today Richard Saunders thanks for coming

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along over there we've got Iran Sega and

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Tim indem Amanda Rose

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Trish Han Lara venom and you're gonna

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set us off with some great topics super

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can tell some stories are we let's talk

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about the time that your car didn't

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start that was an exciting moment wasn't

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a long time listeners will remember that

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we used to do a segment called the think

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tank where we'd come to our club at the

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end of the street and come downstairs to

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the Chinese restaurant have a great

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Chinese food and then dinner and then

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sit on these long tables as part of the

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restaurant we're in exactly the same

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spot however this club has completely

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changed its all meeting rooms now but

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we've got comfortable chairs it's quite

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nice yeah it looks a bit gameofthrones

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issue that's exactly right I think it's

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a catering school there now oddly enough

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look I have an apology Tim Ferguson a

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written apology from Tim Ferguson Tim

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Ferguson Agatha allstars he wished to

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apologize for not being here and he says

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that he does agree that the earth is not

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flat but he thinks the moon is flat

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because we only ever see one side it

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could be two-dimensional aha he said the

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earth is definitely flat may not I don't

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know what people are talking about now

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there's there's something we can kick

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off the think tank with this is

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incredible everybody in all the years

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I've been doing the sceptics own and we

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used to do the think tank this topic

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never came up because we thought why on

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earth on earth why on earth ever

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occurred to us now Tim you've been

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around a long time The Skeptical traps

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flat earth it's really taken off it

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hasn't why what's happening

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whatever I say pups it's just nice and

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even it's just yeah it's a simple thing

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to understand right a flat earth like a

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pancake

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and people can appreciate that like they

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appreciate pancakes I think it's really

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started he really started in the US with

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some prominent sports people like there

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was started with the basketball star who

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said something in there that was a bit

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like the party I'd look up the work of

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Mark Sargent online he's been one of the

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main promoters of this with videos and

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things like that he did a seven part

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series anyone seen any of these videos a

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tough crowd for that and it's kind of

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interesting and oh no Ross and Carrie

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didn't interview at marks sergeant's I

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have a look at that you make a bit of

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background but I don't think my

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sergeants alone you know I think it was

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also interviewed by by Marsh on on be

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reasonably reasonable yeah and be very

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reasonable in the case of Marsh be too

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reasonable the the thing is sergeant

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myself wouldn't in no way make it so

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popular I think he just had a celebrity

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pick up on it and make it a lot more

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popular today than it's been in decades

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it's not just popular it's it's there

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have conventions and they just had one

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in the UK and even here in Australia

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this mean that they tried to get one gig

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aside yes I haven't really looked into

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it buddy

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it's always been my impression that was

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kind of an are anything like it is it

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like a really they're really genuinely

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emotionally committed to the idea or an

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internet troll from what I gather

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there's there's the Christian angle as

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well that go back to the firmament above

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and then there's also the people who

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don't trust in what they're being told

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and it's kind of like they've been

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looking for the grand unification

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conspiracy theory of them all and this

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would be it because if the earth birth

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was indeed flat it explains all the

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other ones because that's the first

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thing they're hiding so it's

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conspiracies all the way down that sort

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of thing yes it's speaking of space man

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and I just noticed what Trish is wearing

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it's my um it's the Australian research

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into space exploration t-shirt or ass

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I know what's funny about that you have

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a lot of contact with school kids today

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I have anything about the latter thing

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do they try that one as a school teacher

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do your students go hey

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Earth's flat shut up it's sort of I'm so

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I've got a year twelve group at the

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moment who a lot of our conversations

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are centered around flat earth round

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earth they find a lot of memes and send

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them to me Oh

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to be honest it's it's the physics that

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they have to understand to be able to

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explain why the earth is not flat and in

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fact is a sphere is entirely relevant to

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our course so it seems like a complete

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joke but they're actually learning stuff

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now main I had a listener write in

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saying he had an idea for the 500th

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episode he said don't do any more no

545
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that was another listener isn't he said

546
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why don't we look at some of the topics

547
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that were in the very first thing tank

548
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and I just listened to that today and

549
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that was with dr. ray Qi and our

550
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reporter Michael walla Han at the time

551
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:43,680
and the topics we covered 10 years ago

552
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:45,930
almost in this very spot were the let's

553
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:48,810
go panther Yahweh's UFOs and bunyips

554
00:23:03,080 --> 00:22:51,780
Robbie Williams looking for aliens do

555
00:23:08,330 --> 00:23:03,090
you remember that yes jobs been taken

556
00:23:10,970 --> 00:23:08,340
over by the guy from blink-182 another

557
00:23:13,340 --> 00:23:10,980
topic pink and Scientology I don't know

558
00:23:15,380 --> 00:23:13,350
if that ever went anywhere or not

559
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:15,390
halfway through the recording of the the

560
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the session and I don't think it's going

561
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to happen tonight a nice young lady came

562
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up to us and gave us all free beers cuz

563
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the club were running a promotion yes I

564
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know and that's all recorded we should

565
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:31,560
yeah Penn pharmaceuticals remember ten

566
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,050
years ago there was a wonderful

567
00:23:38,030 --> 00:23:36,720
experience that was where they hadn't

568
00:23:39,620 --> 00:23:38,040
quite checked the ingredients properly

569
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in some tablets for coming out a hundred

570
00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:41,510
percent and some 10 percent yeah

571
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there was a lot of disparity there was

572
00:23:46,750 --> 00:23:44,480
actually also a lot of flaws sweepings

573
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apparently being put back into the mix

574
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mmm

575
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yes but I raided this pharmaceutical

576
00:23:54,490 --> 00:23:52,700
company I was making pills and things

577
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:54,500
for other companies as well and they

578
00:23:58,180 --> 00:23:56,930
were raided and put out of business and

579
00:24:00,250 --> 00:23:58,190
there was a huge court case of better

580
00:24:02,370 --> 00:24:00,260
than the guy who ran pam pharmaceuticals

581
00:24:04,510 --> 00:24:02,380
well a huge paper gave me three million

582
00:24:07,660 --> 00:24:04,520
dollars so it was actually it pays to be

583
00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:07,670
a bad manufacturer so that was ten i

584
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roughly ten years ago also the topics

585
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:11,630
brought up in that situation were

586
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witchcraft at a soccer match

587
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:17,390
oddly enough and vegetarian diets so

588
00:24:21,670 --> 00:24:18,890
that were the topics we were looking at

589
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10 not even vegan vegetarian just just

590
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but i think the best part was being

591
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interrupted to have free beers quite

592
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:35,840
frankly so coming up in come to come to

593
00:24:40,180 --> 00:24:38,480
my notice the bus is late yes we all

594
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:40,190
miss the bus announcements longtime

595
00:24:42,940 --> 00:24:41,690
listeners remember would be recording

596
00:24:44,530 --> 00:24:42,950
and halfway through the the club

597
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wouldn't say the bus is leaving for so

598
00:24:48,670 --> 00:24:46,580
instead location doesn't happen anymore

599
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:48,680
main out it's very sad but there is

600
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:50,810
behind you a photo of the dog that

601
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single-handedly defeated the kaiser in

602
00:25:00,850 --> 00:24:59,270
the first world war we see a dog is just

603
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:00,860
about to go the cars that you can tell

604
00:25:05,860 --> 00:25:04,010
that causes just out of frame people

605
00:25:08,190 --> 00:25:05,870
wondering why they're just surrounded by

606
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:08,200
war pictures because this club is the

607
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returned and services league club which

608
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:13,790
is was originally set up for servicemen

609
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and women so there you go there you go

610
00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:18,260
so but it brought to my attention just

611
00:25:23,950 --> 00:25:21,110
today yesterday by dr. brad McKay was

612
00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:23,960
John Edward is coming back to town some

613
00:25:26,770 --> 00:25:24,950
things never change

614
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:26,780
yeah you're right because I as I pointed

615
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:30,170
out to dr. Brad this is his this is his

616
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:32,960
routine every year for 10 plus years he

617
00:25:36,370 --> 00:25:34,370
comes in the middle of the end does this

618
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:36,380
pre to a promotion

619
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which basically means every media outlet

620
00:25:43,570 --> 00:25:41,450
will have him on especially the chat

621
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shows and things like

622
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:47,429
seen yourself [\h__\h] soda by him oh it

623
00:25:54,739 --> 00:25:51,809
wasn't complimentary over 10 years ago I

624
00:25:56,989 --> 00:25:54,749
went to see him do a live TV show called

625
00:25:59,450 --> 00:25:56,999
mornings with Carrie Anne Kennedy at the

626
00:26:01,310 --> 00:25:59,460
time and I got into the audience and I

627
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:01,320
thought best thing to do was just see

628
00:26:04,909 --> 00:26:03,330
what goes on if I stand up and tried to

629
00:26:07,090 --> 00:26:04,919
chat but it wouldn't work

630
00:26:09,970 --> 00:26:07,100
and he didn't do any readings at that

631
00:26:13,729 --> 00:26:09,980
time but Carrie Anne asked him about

632
00:26:16,489 --> 00:26:13,739
something to do with his psychic powers

633
00:26:18,889 --> 00:26:16,499
can interfere with electronics he said

634
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:18,899
oh yeah that's true you know TVs flicker

635
00:26:24,889 --> 00:26:21,330
on and off and I I'm my powers in and I

636
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:24,899
thought and they let him fly but it was

637
00:26:29,330 --> 00:26:27,570
that being in the audience after the

638
00:26:30,859 --> 00:26:29,340
show was over and he went away and and I

639
00:26:33,409 --> 00:26:30,869
was chatting to Carrie and Kenley that

640
00:26:36,289 --> 00:26:33,419
the the host of the show and I said look

641
00:26:37,669 --> 00:26:36,299
I'm from the skeptics and we sort of

642
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:37,679
we've you know we're pretty sure we know

643
00:26:42,409 --> 00:26:40,049
what's going on would you have a skeptic

644
00:26:44,090 --> 00:26:42,419
on for balance and she said yes and

645
00:26:47,180 --> 00:26:44,100
that's why we got the magician mark

646
00:26:48,919 --> 00:26:47,190
Meyer on about two weeks later or

647
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:48,929
something on to put the sceptical point

648
00:26:52,759 --> 00:26:50,850
of view so that that worked out in the

649
00:26:54,859 --> 00:26:52,769
end and I and again if I were to stood

650
00:26:56,869 --> 00:26:54,869
up and since during a live taping of the

651
00:26:58,879 --> 00:26:56,879
show and made a fool out of myself it

652
00:27:01,970 --> 00:26:58,889
happens anyway may not but I think that

653
00:27:04,159 --> 00:27:01,980
was the best outcome I mean has anyone

654
00:27:06,739 --> 00:27:04,169
ever been dude like that I mean not Mark

655
00:27:08,690 --> 00:27:06,749
John oh but anyone else have you had a

656
00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:08,700
chance to see one do a massive called

657
00:27:14,419 --> 00:27:09,929
reading which is what they turn into

658
00:27:17,659 --> 00:27:14,429
that challenged us a long time ago named

659
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:17,669
cliff Dorian he was channeling a ancient

660
00:27:22,009 --> 00:27:19,529
spirit or something we're putting on a

661
00:27:24,229 --> 00:27:22,019
slightly different voice not very good

662
00:27:26,239 --> 00:27:24,239
but his [\h__\h] was that he would dribble

663
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:26,249
at the same time but he would go read

664
00:27:29,749 --> 00:27:28,049
people and he read he read there's some

665
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:29,759
of the skeptics were there and he he

666
00:27:34,759 --> 00:27:32,850
sort of contacted dead relatives half of

667
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:34,769
whom weren't but never mind so that was

668
00:27:38,479 --> 00:27:35,850
quite fun actually and he think

669
00:27:40,430 --> 00:27:38,489
challenges $200,000 neat offered his own

670
00:27:41,659 --> 00:27:40,440
hundred thousand dollars I mean it

671
00:27:43,789 --> 00:27:41,669
supposedly brought it on and showed it

672
00:27:45,529 --> 00:27:43,799
on TV and it was sounded quite

673
00:27:47,370 --> 00:27:45,539
interesting Barry Williams was there

674
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:47,380
with him actually

675
00:27:51,270 --> 00:27:48,970
bold or was this another guilin thinking

676
00:27:57,660 --> 00:27:51,280
about the building yeah baldon a bit

677
00:27:59,760 --> 00:27:57,670
okay I saw a female reader but it was

678
00:28:02,850 --> 00:27:59,770
not even cold reading was just all just

679
00:28:04,350 --> 00:28:02,860
basic mentalism tricks even she was so

680
00:28:05,820 --> 00:28:04,360
terrible that even at the time I mean I

681
00:28:08,850 --> 00:28:05,830
now I know a lot more about how these

682
00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:08,860
things are done at the time I didn't and

683
00:28:12,630 --> 00:28:10,840
he was still very transparent that what

684
00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:12,640
she was doing with tricks he was it was

685
00:28:14,940 --> 00:28:14,260
really quite bad just trying to remember

686
00:28:17,610 --> 00:28:14,950
what her name was

687
00:28:19,260 --> 00:28:17,620
yeah the only one I've seen that was in

688
00:28:23,340 --> 00:28:19,270
the studio audience of Richard's

689
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:23,350
television show when he was judging the

690
00:28:28,290 --> 00:28:26,290
psychics and they weren't very good

691
00:28:29,850 --> 00:28:28,300
either yes good cuz you'd end up doing

692
00:28:31,230 --> 00:28:29,860
two seasons the show was called the one

693
00:28:33,030 --> 00:28:31,240
who's that and yeah two seasons she's a

694
00:28:39,420 --> 00:28:33,040
lot a lot of things that ended up on the

695
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:39,430
editing room floor I've been called

696
00:28:42,690 --> 00:28:41,110
worse what we'll do now is would they

697
00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:42,700
get a quick break and we'll play some of

698
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:45,550
the very kind and wonderful greetings

699
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:48,250
and well wishing messages of well

700
00:28:52,830 --> 00:28:51,850
wishing well wishing wish I can I need

701
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:52,840
another drink and I've only been

702
00:28:56,580 --> 00:28:55,210
drinking water and stuff we're gonna

703
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:56,590
play some greetings from around the

704
00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:03,630
we here at swearing strange wish you

705
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:05,980
hearty congratulations on your milestone

706
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:09,010
500th episode Richard Saunders has now

707
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:11,440
entered epic territory as a podcasting

708
00:29:15,810 --> 00:29:13,840
legend hey we love legends we should do

709
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:15,820
a whole show on Richard so from me

710
00:29:19,980 --> 00:29:17,770
Pasquale Romero and Ben Radford and

711
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:19,990
Celeste reward all of us here in strange

712
00:29:24,030 --> 00:29:22,210
studios in the Southwest deserts of New

713
00:29:27,060 --> 00:29:24,040
Mexico kind of like the outback of the

714
00:29:28,150 --> 00:29:27,070
United States wish you a fantastic 500th

715
00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:28,160
and many more

716
00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:39,529
[Music]

717
00:29:43,649 --> 00:29:42,100
boy howdy George rob here from the

718
00:29:45,869 --> 00:29:43,659
geologic podcast just wanted to say

719
00:29:51,779 --> 00:29:45,879
congratulations on 500 wonderful

720
00:29:55,999 --> 00:29:51,789
episodes of the skeptic soup oh sorry

721
00:30:00,690 --> 00:29:56,009
500 episodes of the skeptic place the

722
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:00,700
skeptic party guys the skeptic skeptics

723
00:30:08,999 --> 00:30:06,210
skeptic thing something bones something

724
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:09,009
skeptic bone that's it's the skeptic

725
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:13,090
bone the skeptic vegemite party and

726
00:30:18,690 --> 00:30:15,970
dingo fiesta yeah perfect let me start

727
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:18,700
again boy howdy George Rob here just

728
00:30:22,350 --> 00:30:20,710
wanted to say congratulations on 500

729
00:30:24,930 --> 00:30:22,360
wonderful episodes of the skeptic

730
00:30:26,879 --> 00:30:24,940
Vegemite party and dingo fiesta richard

731
00:30:28,619 --> 00:30:26,889
you've really come quite a long way from

732
00:30:31,340 --> 00:30:28,629
those very first episodes where you were

733
00:30:34,950 --> 00:30:31,350
accidentally recording into your toaster

734
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:34,960
do they say toaster in Australia no what

735
00:30:40,369 --> 00:30:35,529
do they say

736
00:30:46,019 --> 00:30:44,070
skeptic zone what skeptic zone that's it

737
00:30:48,330 --> 00:30:46,029
what was I thinking anyway

738
00:30:49,859 --> 00:30:48,340
congratulations to everyone involved in

739
00:30:51,810 --> 00:30:49,869
producing all of the consistently

740
00:30:54,029 --> 00:30:51,820
wonderful content that makes up each and

741
00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:54,039
every one of the 500 episodes of the

742
00:30:59,100 --> 00:30:57,700
skeptic zone huzzah and pip-pip to you

743
00:31:03,840 --> 00:30:59,110
Richard and to all of your amazing

744
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:03,850
cohorts except Maynard he knows why I'm

745
00:31:05,970 --> 00:31:04,450
just kidding

746
00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:05,980
I know now that that could have happened

747
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:08,860
to anyone's llama regardless here's to

748
00:31:13,420 --> 00:31:10,970
the next 500

749
00:31:20,430 --> 00:31:13,430
[Applause]

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00:31:24,010 --> 00:31:20,440
[Music]

751
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:24,020
hi Richard it's Heidi Robertson the raw

752
00:31:32,140 --> 00:31:28,510
skeptic 500 episodes do you feel old

753
00:31:34,779 --> 00:31:32,150
worn out try some healing crystal energy

754
00:31:37,810 --> 00:31:34,789
chakra infusing Reiki with a side of

755
00:31:40,659 --> 00:31:37,820
homeopathic cynicism burned moxibustion

756
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:40,669
style on Meridian piercing acupuncture

757
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:43,490
pressure points your Yeti spirit animal

758
00:31:50,710 --> 00:31:47,090
will be forever grateful alternatively

759
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:50,720
run downstairs and have a cup of tea and

760
00:31:56,110 --> 00:31:53,570
a peanut butter sandwich which will do

761
00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:56,120
just as well and cost you a fraction of

762
00:32:01,120 --> 00:31:58,960
the price you're welcome

763
00:32:04,029 --> 00:32:01,130
congratulations and thank you for all

764
00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:04,039
you do for the skeptical community hello

765
00:32:08,370 --> 00:32:06,200
Richard susan gerbic from the guerrilla

766
00:32:11,770 --> 00:32:08,380
skepticism on wikipedia project

767
00:32:13,210 --> 00:32:11,780
congratulations on 500 shows thank you

768
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:13,220
for all your support and your friendship

769
00:32:17,710 --> 00:32:15,919
I've learned so much from you and I know

770
00:32:20,140 --> 00:32:17,720
I have a lot more to learn from you

771
00:32:25,539 --> 00:32:20,150
according to my psychic she sees another

772
00:32:29,130 --> 00:32:25,549
500 episodes sometime in 2027 and she's

773
00:32:31,390 --> 00:32:29,140
never wrong I get a business card

774
00:32:33,220 --> 00:32:31,400
congratulations are getting to 500 my

775
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:33,230
dad what a wonderful thing you're

776
00:32:36,970 --> 00:32:35,330
bringing skepticism to the universe you

777
00:32:39,310 --> 00:32:36,980
are doing God's work if there is a god

778
00:32:40,330 --> 00:32:39,320
the best thing are you doing the work of

779
00:32:41,890 --> 00:32:40,340
everybody were you doing the work of

780
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:41,900
everybody oh my god you're doing the

781
00:32:46,810 --> 00:32:43,850
work of the universe he's no fun be all

782
00:32:49,060 --> 00:32:46,820
right well wasn't that nice to have some

783
00:32:49,899 --> 00:32:49,070
of those people though send messages to

784
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:49,909
the skeptic zone

785
00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:51,710
I don't know fantastic especially the

786
00:33:01,790 --> 00:32:59,060
but actually when did you pick up on the

787
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:01,800
skip examine did you first hear it I

788
00:33:08,030 --> 00:33:04,320
think it was probably about five years

789
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:08,040
ago when I went to my first skeptics

790
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:11,370
convention in Melbourne and I'd only

791
00:33:15,170 --> 00:33:13,530
recently been I'd recently found out

792
00:33:17,780 --> 00:33:15,180
what skepticism was and I'd started

793
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:17,790
listening to skeptics guide and then you

794
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:20,730
may not accosted me at the Friday

795
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:23,250
evening event and just terrified me

796
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:25,710
yes terrified me and I couldn't even

797
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:27,090
speak to you for about three or four

798
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:29,310
years so and here we are

799
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:31,170
that was a planet Maynard meet and greet

800
00:33:35,750 --> 00:33:33,480
and and and the guy with the beard came

801
00:33:37,730 --> 00:33:35,760
along as well too didn't he yeah

802
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:37,740
different he all different yeah this is

803
00:33:40,910 --> 00:33:39,690
the variety yeah that was that was a

804
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:40,920
pretty big night that as they usually

805
00:33:44,660 --> 00:33:42,510
are in Melbourne there and that was when

806
00:33:47,060 --> 00:33:44,670
it was held in an underground abandoned

807
00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:47,070
nuclear silo as well in northern - at

808
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:49,230
the University of Melbourne I remember

809
00:33:56,270 --> 00:33:51,450
the big the huge concrete bunker

810
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:56,280
underground there yep it just looks like

811
00:33:58,850 --> 00:33:57,690
every other lecture theatre you've ever

812
00:34:00,080 --> 00:33:58,860
been in but - someone has never been a

813
00:34:02,150 --> 00:34:00,090
lecture theatre it looked like a nuclear

814
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:02,160
bunker underground there it would you

815
00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:03,810
and come encounter the skeptic zone

816
00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:05,580
first I'm trying I remember what year it

817
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:07,980
was but it was the QED that you were at

818
00:34:13,820 --> 00:34:11,970
Iran and it was the same qdy about three

819
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:13,830
years ago it's not that long ago and

820
00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:16,290
yeah the same year I met dr. Brad McCoy

821
00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:18,540
for the first time and went clubbing

822
00:34:22,270 --> 00:34:20,580
until about 4:00 in the morning yeah and

823
00:34:24,230 --> 00:34:22,280
then he recommended he said oh I

824
00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:24,240
listened to the skeptic zone and I was

825
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:25,590
like oh what's that I'll add that to my

826
00:34:35,870 --> 00:34:29,610
list of podcasts and there we go and on

827
00:34:38,180 --> 00:34:35,880
the dance floor you have to move to the

828
00:34:40,700 --> 00:34:38,190
home of the skeptic zone so I packed all

829
00:34:49,730 --> 00:34:40,710
my stuff up and Here I am Amanda will

830
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:49,740
you go yes dude remember any of the

831
00:34:54,009 --> 00:34:51,690
topics that you tackled no nothing I

832
00:34:56,359 --> 00:34:54,019
remember seeing

833
00:34:58,970 --> 00:34:56,369
those three beers all the time back then

834
00:35:00,440 --> 00:34:58,980
wasn't there I remember we did a thing

835
00:35:03,019 --> 00:35:00,450
take once a manor and you tell us about

836
00:35:05,029 --> 00:35:03,029
how you were you had an optical illusion

837
00:35:07,039 --> 00:35:05,039
you were on the train you're looking out

838
00:35:08,990 --> 00:35:07,049
the window and a plane was coming you

839
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:09,000
remember going backwards yeah or

840
00:35:16,819 --> 00:35:14,630
direction the plane was going and it

841
00:35:20,779 --> 00:35:16,829
kind of looked the UFO ish if you sort

842
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:20,789
of couldn't quite see the wings and it

843
00:35:25,579 --> 00:35:24,089
was just sort of hovering there in like

844
00:35:27,140 --> 00:35:25,589
that seemed from flying hiring it's

845
00:35:28,490 --> 00:35:27,150
coming right for us and you ran and

846
00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:28,500
jumped out of the train window or

847
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:29,849
anything like that Lord britches didn't

848
00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:33,450
flying I that's just stupid who would

849
00:35:38,839 --> 00:35:37,049
say that we might take another quick

850
00:35:40,819 --> 00:35:38,849
break again and listen to some more

851
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,829
greetings from around the world see if

852
00:35:44,359 --> 00:35:42,720
one's see which ones you can see it

853
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:44,369
under coercion when you have a listen to

854
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:47,490
it or not hey this goes out to Richard

855
00:35:51,079 --> 00:35:49,049
Saunders and all of our friends and the

856
00:35:53,660 --> 00:35:51,089
Australian skeptics hey Richard

857
00:36:02,329 --> 00:35:53,670
congratulations on reaching the skeptic

858
00:36:04,519 --> 00:36:02,339
Zone episode 500 keep it up if I've

859
00:36:07,279 --> 00:36:04,529
hundred more yet Richard we all know how

860
00:36:09,529 --> 00:36:07,289
much work and dedication it takes to put

861
00:36:12,019 --> 00:36:09,539
out that kind of output for that long so

862
00:36:13,279 --> 00:36:12,029
really well done my friend yeah we love

863
00:36:15,950 --> 00:36:13,289
you brother keep up the great work

864
00:36:18,009 --> 00:36:15,960
Richards I want to congratulate you on

865
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:18,019
the 500th episode of the skeptic zone

866
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:20,970
but I can't do it without putting things

867
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:24,150
in a bit of context when you invited me

868
00:36:28,430 --> 00:36:25,440
to join the Australian skeptics

869
00:36:31,009 --> 00:36:28,440
committee in 2003 you were already an

870
00:36:32,990 --> 00:36:31,019
old hand you were president of

871
00:36:34,549 --> 00:36:33,000
Australian skeptics Inc at the time you

872
00:36:37,099 --> 00:36:34,559
had recently finished creating the great

873
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:37,109
skeptic CD and you were about to start

874
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:38,880
Sydney skeptics in the pub which is

875
00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:40,710
still all these years later still going

876
00:36:44,029 --> 00:36:41,369
strong

877
00:36:46,309 --> 00:36:44,039
while the podcast was just a twinkle in

878
00:36:47,870 --> 00:36:46,319
your eye at that time you had already

879
00:36:49,809 --> 00:36:47,880
produced skeptical video and audio

880
00:36:52,670 --> 00:36:49,819
content of what somewhat similar nature

881
00:36:54,559 --> 00:36:52,680
yet even with all that in mind the

882
00:36:57,710 --> 00:36:54,569
skeptic zone must be considered a

883
00:37:00,109 --> 00:36:57,720
special achievement doing anything for

884
00:37:02,569 --> 00:37:00,119
500 consecutive weeks is incredible I

885
00:37:04,309 --> 00:37:02,579
mean personally I'd probably expect a

886
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:04,319
ticker tape parade for taking the

887
00:37:09,349 --> 00:37:06,450
garbage out 500 weeks in a row

888
00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:09,359
yet through thick and thin happiness and

889
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:12,420
adversity you have persisted you've also

890
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:14,130
given a voice to others who you call

891
00:37:20,780 --> 00:37:18,240
reporters dr. AG Heidi Mandy Joe and Joe

892
00:37:23,569 --> 00:37:20,790
and of course the one and only may not

893
00:37:24,620 --> 00:37:23,579
and many others being one of those

894
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:24,630
voices

895
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:26,400
I truly appreciate having a platform

896
00:37:30,020 --> 00:37:27,930
that allows me to contribute

897
00:37:31,490 --> 00:37:30,030
occasionally and I will certainly

898
00:37:32,049 --> 00:37:31,500
appreciate the fact that you keep it

899
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:32,059
going

900
00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:34,530
so Richard congratulations on the

901
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:36,390
amazing milestone and all the best for

902
00:37:43,609 --> 00:37:39,680
the next 500 hello Richard

903
00:37:45,740 --> 00:37:43,619
congratulations on episode 500 this is

904
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:45,750
Cassandra you guys know me as dr.

905
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:47,970
Cassandra Perryman of the cast files and

906
00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:50,089
president of Brisbane skeptic Society

907
00:37:54,349 --> 00:37:52,470
I'd like to say that when I was a kid

908
00:37:56,180 --> 00:37:54,359
Richard was a personal hero of mine not

909
00:37:58,339 --> 00:37:56,190
because for his skepticism but because

910
00:38:01,760 --> 00:37:58,349
of his origami so I love to say that

911
00:38:05,780 --> 00:38:01,770
origami led me to skepticism and it was

912
00:38:07,849 --> 00:38:05,790
Richard who led me to both so thank you

913
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:07,859
and congratulations again on Episode

914
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:11,609
five hundred five hundred episodes of

915
00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:14,970
the skeptic zone I don't believe it well

916
00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:16,980
done Richard looking forward to the next

917
00:38:21,589 --> 00:38:20,609
500 of busting woo across Australia and

918
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:21,599
around the world

919
00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:27,530
I read that you're coming up on your

920
00:38:34,549 --> 00:38:30,990
500th episode and here is for another

921
00:38:37,970 --> 00:38:34,559
500 yeah so we would like to

922
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:37,980
congratulate you on doing so many we do

923
00:38:42,289 --> 00:38:39,510
know at the ESB

924
00:38:44,780 --> 00:38:42,299
that that is a hell of a lot of it's a

925
00:38:46,819 --> 00:38:44,790
lot of work and it's something I mean

926
00:38:49,130 --> 00:38:46,829
we've been listening all of us to the

927
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:49,140
skeptic zone for ages and I think it's

928
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,710
almost now ten years what you inspired

929
00:38:56,990 --> 00:38:55,200
us so much you are one of the reasons

930
00:38:59,089 --> 00:38:57,000
why we started this in this first place

931
00:38:59,809 --> 00:38:59,099
thank you very much for doing it you're

932
00:39:02,480 --> 00:38:59,819
amazing

933
00:39:06,140 --> 00:39:02,490
keep doing what you do and this was from

934
00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:06,150
all of us at the ESP the real ESP Exodus

935
00:39:20,030 --> 00:39:08,430
goodbye fire

936
00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:20,040
I don't know why you can't believe we

937
00:39:24,380 --> 00:39:22,350
now rejoin the think tank owner also

938
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:24,390
known as the drunk tank already in

939
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:27,210
progress and a shocking piece of news

940
00:39:31,580 --> 00:39:29,010
that the first episode could have been

941
00:39:33,620 --> 00:39:31,590
wrong at the sceptic zone well yeah it

942
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:33,630
turns out pink never join Scientology so

943
00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:36,570
that was nonsense wasn't it well I don't

944
00:39:40,580 --> 00:39:38,550
I think it was just at the time there

945
00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:40,590
was a report of it so it was very new so

946
00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:42,420
we weren't sure what was happening but

947
00:39:45,770 --> 00:39:44,520
I'm glad she didn't she got dumped she

948
00:39:47,930 --> 00:39:45,780
got dumped and apparently they thought

949
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:47,940
she became a Scientologist but no she's

950
00:39:52,220 --> 00:39:49,130
not that stupid

951
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:52,230
so ten years later we find these things

952
00:39:58,490 --> 00:39:57,210
out so that was wrong now what but the

953
00:40:02,120 --> 00:39:58,500
pack but shortly the Penrith Panthers

954
00:40:03,950 --> 00:40:02,130
really was oh yeah yeah I caught one the

955
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:03,960
other week it's in my backyard I

956
00:40:09,220 --> 00:40:06,690
actually did a story on a big cat

957
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:09,230
sighting in the up hunter oh dear a

958
00:40:14,330 --> 00:40:11,970
fellow came forward called Lee Harvey so

959
00:40:17,210 --> 00:40:14,340
if you look up Lee Harvey ABC Newcastle

960
00:40:18,590 --> 00:40:17,220
or ABC up a hunter there'll be an audio

961
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:18,600
interview with him and he's claiming he

962
00:40:21,980 --> 00:40:20,370
saw one around the muscle Brook area now

963
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:21,990
there's never been any large cat

964
00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,330
sightings in that area it's not actually

965
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:26,640
linked particularly well with with where

966
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:28,290
you could walk up there in a corridor

967
00:40:32,570 --> 00:40:31,170
even if you if there was one so I was a

968
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:32,580
bit skeptical shall we say of the whole

969
00:40:35,810 --> 00:40:33,930
thing and actually rang the local

970
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:35,820
councils and all of them said that then

971
00:40:40,100 --> 00:40:37,890
they've never had a lien big cats as

972
00:40:41,570 --> 00:40:40,110
they're called in the UK sightings in

973
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:41,580
the upper hand it just doesn't happen

974
00:40:47,060 --> 00:40:44,880
there all that often some carbs or some

975
00:40:49,250 --> 00:40:47,070
this cat was coming up over a hill or

976
00:40:50,630 --> 00:40:49,260
something there was a shade of something

977
00:40:52,580 --> 00:40:50,640
yeah there was a shed involved don't

978
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:52,590
know if he saw any more than one but I

979
00:40:57,350 --> 00:40:54,720
know I did quit I'm saying are you sure

980
00:40:59,270 --> 00:40:57,360
and yes oh heavens look at the gear Lee

981
00:41:01,070 --> 00:40:59,280
Harvey ABC up a hunter Maynard and

982
00:41:02,330 --> 00:41:01,080
you'll see the cat thing we actually did

983
00:41:04,670 --> 00:41:02,340
also publish that in the skeptic

984
00:41:06,140 --> 00:41:04,680
magazine oh right now is that searchable

985
00:41:08,330 --> 00:41:06,150
it is absolutely searchable it's the

986
00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:08,340
same issue as you talk about some Yowies

987
00:41:11,810 --> 00:41:10,260
and that sort of stuff for beat cats in

988
00:41:14,750 --> 00:41:11,820
various places actually so yeah that's a

989
00:41:20,109 --> 00:41:14,760
bit of a big cat issue look it up in

990
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:22,789
and now getting back to the world of the

991
00:41:26,660 --> 00:41:24,960
paranormal we never stray far from that

992
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:26,670
just letting Sydney listeners know

993
00:41:32,269 --> 00:41:29,630
especially that Paracon Australia's

994
00:41:34,819 --> 00:41:32,279
paranormal convention will be at the

995
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:34,829
manly quarantine station this year our

996
00:41:39,229 --> 00:41:37,200
June the 16th and the 17th through a

997
00:41:41,420 --> 00:41:39,239
special guest Sharon he'll skip tickle

998
00:41:43,579 --> 00:41:41,430
Sharon Hill I won't be there

999
00:41:46,009 --> 00:41:43,589
unfortunately I'll be in in the United

1000
00:41:47,509 --> 00:41:46,019
States but our hopefully may not know

1001
00:41:48,589 --> 00:41:47,519
much I'm hoping to attend so if you see

1002
00:41:50,359 --> 00:41:48,599
me there and you've got something to

1003
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:50,369
save a skeptical or non skeptical nature

1004
00:41:53,569 --> 00:41:51,599
I'll certainly want to hear all about it

1005
00:41:55,819 --> 00:41:53,579
and I've been to see how Sharon's show

1006
00:41:58,099 --> 00:41:55,829
goes over yeah so if you want to go

1007
00:41:59,900 --> 00:41:58,109
along folks it look I always say this

1008
00:42:01,489 --> 00:41:59,910
it's worthwhile for skeptics to go to

1009
00:42:03,019 --> 00:42:01,499
mind body wallet it's worthwhile to go

1010
00:42:05,150 --> 00:42:03,029
to paranormal conventions sit in the

1011
00:42:06,769 --> 00:42:05,160
audience and learn it's really

1012
00:42:08,329 --> 00:42:06,779
worthwhile don't you you've been to a

1013
00:42:10,549 --> 00:42:08,339
few with me yeah look I won't do a

1014
00:42:12,410 --> 00:42:10,559
couple of mine Bali buddy wallets with

1015
00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:12,420
you I'm the one we did for disbelievers

1016
00:42:20,479 --> 00:42:16,380
9 where you got called the c-word and it

1017
00:42:21,799 --> 00:42:20,489
wasn't clever bye bye some guy who was

1018
00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:21,809
doing something would power bands or

1019
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:23,460
something that that could have got

1020
00:42:27,620 --> 00:42:24,930
potentially rough in fact has there ever

1021
00:42:29,479 --> 00:42:27,630
been any evidence on in the world of

1022
00:42:31,969 --> 00:42:29,489
skepticism everyone had been putting a

1023
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:31,979
headlock what happened oh well so a few

1024
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:34,170
years back I went along to Sally Morgan

1025
00:42:38,809 --> 00:42:35,089
Desai

1026
00:42:39,890 --> 00:42:38,819
and I had a hidden camera somewhere else

1027
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:39,900
had a hidden camera and we actually

1028
00:42:43,729 --> 00:42:42,210
filmed a skeptic who was he was

1029
00:42:45,739 --> 00:42:43,739
leafleting outside telling people what

1030
00:42:47,479 --> 00:42:45,749
to look for in cold reading and he got

1031
00:42:49,309 --> 00:42:47,489
chased into the road by Sally Morgan's

1032
00:42:52,009 --> 00:42:49,319
husband and threatened you know in his

1033
00:42:52,940 --> 00:42:52,019
life so yeah they're not all lovely in

1034
00:42:54,890 --> 00:42:52,950
airy-fairy

1035
00:42:56,269 --> 00:42:54,900
there's a very savory language some very

1036
00:43:00,140 --> 00:42:56,279
northern England language coming out

1037
00:43:01,850 --> 00:43:00,150
there well absolutely I was so offended

1038
00:43:03,380 --> 00:43:01,860
that was the husband that she wasn't

1039
00:43:05,180 --> 00:43:03,390
supposed to be working with anymore

1040
00:43:07,820 --> 00:43:05,190
that was the husband that was distanced

1041
00:43:09,260 --> 00:43:07,830
from her enterprise entirely yeah funny

1042
00:43:11,210 --> 00:43:09,270
you should say that and someone was

1043
00:43:13,220 --> 00:43:11,220
asking for video I've actually him at

1044
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:13,230
had a one of her presentations actually

1045
00:43:18,740 --> 00:43:16,170
just to prove that it wasn't quite as as

1046
00:43:19,940 --> 00:43:18,750
it was portrayed but actually the UK

1047
00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:19,950
skeptics do that kind of thing where

1048
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:21,630
they go along and expose people would

1049
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:23,520
would the Australian skeptics do that I

1050
00:43:29,060 --> 00:43:25,440
know you're considered the rock stars of

1051
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:29,070
the sky yeah

1052
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:31,650
ah there's oh yes and no the thing about

1053
00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:33,510
the UK and the different laws we can't

1054
00:43:36,860 --> 00:43:35,070
have hidden cameras and hidden

1055
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:36,870
microphones here you can't record

1056
00:43:40,010 --> 00:43:38,250
somebody or videoed them without their

1057
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:40,020
permission oh yeah I've made a lot of

1058
00:43:45,830 --> 00:43:43,650
hay out of that no but it wasn't so long

1059
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:45,840
ago you could and in fact one of the the

1060
00:43:48,110 --> 00:43:47,040
previous committee members of the

1061
00:43:48,550 --> 00:43:48,120
Australian skeptics here in New South

1062
00:43:53,450 --> 00:43:48,560
Wales

1063
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:53,460
Olinda who was now lives in the UK years

1064
00:43:57,020 --> 00:43:55,920
ago a Current Affair or today tonight I

1065
00:43:59,300 --> 00:43:57,030
can't remember one of these tabloid

1066
00:44:03,560 --> 00:43:59,310
shows hooked her up with a hidden camera

1067
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:03,570
and she went to have her boobs expanded

1068
00:44:11,150 --> 00:44:07,110
using hypnosis and the lady said that

1069
00:44:13,790 --> 00:44:11,160
she could hypnotize a Linda's stem cells

1070
00:44:18,430 --> 00:44:13,800
to make her breast her bust size bigger

1071
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:18,440
so that was a an undercover report

1072
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:21,810
that's a hell of a claim yes and it

1073
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:28,970
that's come up that and no one really

1074
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:30,450
expected we obviously talked about the

1075
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:31,920
flat earth that's it oh that's a return

1076
00:44:35,330 --> 00:44:33,570
of an oldie but a goodie is there anyone

1077
00:44:38,270 --> 00:44:35,340
that's come up that's new you've gone

1078
00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:38,280
well hide in there no there's always new

1079
00:44:42,950 --> 00:44:40,560
health claims they are always absolutely

1080
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:42,960
shocking and but they usually have a

1081
00:44:47,150 --> 00:44:45,570
basis in something which does work so

1082
00:44:49,310 --> 00:44:47,160
you know you have your high dose vitamin

1083
00:44:52,070 --> 00:44:49,320
C which has been proven to be useful for

1084
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:52,080
things like sepsis not much good for HIV

1085
00:44:55,970 --> 00:44:54,510
though not much good for chronic Lyme

1086
00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:55,980
which isn't a thing so the things like

1087
00:44:59,470 --> 00:44:57,000
that which are coming around all the

1088
00:45:02,030 --> 00:44:59,480
time so yeah there's always new medical

1089
00:45:04,460 --> 00:45:02,040
what will they do very often it so when

1090
00:45:07,730 --> 00:45:04,470
you hear a new claim usually it is based

1091
00:45:09,650 --> 00:45:07,740
on an old claim just you know just

1092
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:09,660
revamped a little bit or it's based on

1093
00:45:12,790 --> 00:45:11,370
something that is actually scientific by

1094
00:45:15,310 --> 00:45:12,800
using the same words

1095
00:45:17,350 --> 00:45:15,320
but that says just the words not not

1096
00:45:19,180 --> 00:45:17,360
anything else it's just you know sounds

1097
00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:19,190
like it's the same but in reality it

1098
00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:20,720
means something completely different and

1099
00:45:25,810 --> 00:45:23,470
in fact usually doesn't mean anything

1100
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:25,820
what's new at the customers because new

1101
00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:28,610
generations of customers come along and

1102
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:30,800
I just had a thought that we were

1103
00:45:36,190 --> 00:45:33,530
chatting before over lots of chips and

1104
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:36,200
dinners and things and Amanda tell us

1105
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:37,970
that she's been working for a show we

1106
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:39,530
all admire called the check out now that

1107
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:40,730
wants to be an interesting because they

1108
00:45:45,490 --> 00:45:42,950
do tackle a lot of bullets whoo wolf

1109
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:45,500
maybe wall - were especially homeopathy

1110
00:45:50,050 --> 00:45:47,930
they're quite they make some quite

1111
00:45:51,610 --> 00:45:50,060
strong funny comments on it also also

1112
00:45:53,140 --> 00:45:51,620
got the advantage of a fully-fledged a

1113
00:45:55,330 --> 00:45:53,150
legal department to check stuff for you

1114
00:45:59,710 --> 00:45:55,340
- does that delay things going to where

1115
00:46:02,530 --> 00:45:59,720
very often no most of I mean it gets

1116
00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:02,540
very much checked in the research for a

1117
00:46:08,410 --> 00:46:05,150
phase so hopefully what we come up with

1118
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:08,420
behind the scenes is not actionable but

1119
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:09,890
of course it does go through the ABC

1120
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:12,410
legal and occasionally they do request

1121
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:15,710
some wording changes or can you back up

1122
00:46:20,110 --> 00:46:17,570
this what's your evidence for this and

1123
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:20,120
we can go back and say well bang bang

1124
00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:21,770
bang bang bang and they go okay that's

1125
00:46:27,460 --> 00:46:24,530
fine we're not gonna get sued but

1126
00:46:30,250 --> 00:46:27,470
sometimes the show has been sued

1127
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:30,260
although those haven't been successful

1128
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:32,090
and they're more sort of publicity

1129
00:46:38,260 --> 00:46:35,200
stunts like making the company gets the

1130
00:46:39,850 --> 00:46:38,270
publicity to say well we sued and then

1131
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:39,860
they drop the suit but they in the

1132
00:46:47,260 --> 00:46:42,290
meantime they got all the media to say

1133
00:46:49,690 --> 00:46:47,270
that they sued but Julian Craig made

1134
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:49,700
quite a lot of noise around Swiss

1135
00:46:54,490 --> 00:46:52,370
dropping their claims so it's not like

1136
00:46:55,270 --> 00:46:54,500
it's not one side it's absolutely not

1137
00:46:58,710 --> 00:46:55,280
one-sided

1138
00:47:01,680 --> 00:46:58,720
but perhaps the people that Suisse's

1139
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:01,690
targeting aren't also really following

1140
00:47:05,830 --> 00:47:03,770
what the check out those you know

1141
00:47:08,770 --> 00:47:05,840
they're only getting the one media

1142
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:08,780
release also people to check out to like

1143
00:47:12,430 --> 00:47:10,970
it kind of writes itself in the open the

1144
00:47:16,540 --> 00:47:12,440
paper and see what's going on you go oh

1145
00:47:18,310 --> 00:47:16,550
yeah that's kind of an obvious thing the

1146
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:18,320
ideas come from the viewers

1147
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:20,710
so keep off at the check out top TV

1148
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:22,800
sending your ideas

1149
00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:25,290
and might get to it what's been the

1150
00:47:29,660 --> 00:47:26,910
favorite one you've done so favorite

1151
00:47:31,490 --> 00:47:29,670
segment you've worked on so far for me

1152
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:31,500
as a research I think it was the MSG

1153
00:47:35,330 --> 00:47:33,960
segment that we did this year that was

1154
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:35,340
just really fascinating for me to

1155
00:47:38,750 --> 00:47:37,290
research it was quite a different sort

1156
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:38,760
of things I was going back through the

1157
00:47:45,260 --> 00:47:42,210
New York Times archives - you know 1968

1158
00:47:47,510 --> 00:47:45,270
when this the first idea about MSG

1159
00:47:51,710 --> 00:47:47,520
causing physical effects came up and

1160
00:47:54,050 --> 00:47:51,720
like plotting exactly how from one sort

1161
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:54,060
of speculative letter in a medical

1162
00:48:00,920 --> 00:47:57,810
journal how and why this sort of myth

1163
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:00,930
kind of grew about msg being really

1164
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:03,450
harmful so I think that's probably my

1165
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:05,310
favorite and they were on YouTube so you

1166
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:07,890
could go to the checkout and catch up

1167
00:48:12,620 --> 00:48:10,200
and in fact who's a big fan Michael

1168
00:48:15,620 --> 00:48:12,630
Marshall from the UK a huge fan of the

1169
00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,630
check out I post some clips occasionally

1170
00:48:20,210 --> 00:48:17,520
of homeopathy or whatever and he writes

1171
00:48:21,500 --> 00:48:20,220
back to me said now I'm now last last 20

1172
00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:21,510
hours have been watching nothing but the

1173
00:48:28,070 --> 00:48:25,590
chicken mash was the host of the panel

1174
00:48:31,070 --> 00:48:28,080
that we had in 2014 convention which

1175
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:31,080
included the checkout and the a Triple C

1176
00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:36,240
and choice so he actually was was the

1177
00:48:40,940 --> 00:48:38,520
moderator of that panel so he's in

1178
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:40,950
preparation he did a lot of a lot of

1179
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:42,450
watching of the checker I think that's

1180
00:48:46,850 --> 00:48:45,240
when he became a real fan yeah and

1181
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:46,860
Michael might keep my commercial here

1182
00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:48,690
just does not care for Doctor Who or

1183
00:49:06,760 --> 00:48:54,150
Breaking Bad you think between those two

1184
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:08,810
but what's kind of annoying because he

1185
00:49:13,490 --> 00:49:12,480
had more people than QED didn't David

1186
00:49:19,610 --> 00:49:13,500
Icke knows how to get the audience's

1187
00:49:21,050 --> 00:49:19,620
everyone Isis tracksuits oh can i I want

1188
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:21,060
to ask questions like you know this has

1189
00:49:24,830 --> 00:49:22,530
been about 10 years I'm just wondering

1190
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:24,840
ten years ago we talked about the

1191
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:26,400
Penrith Panthers here what would what

1192
00:49:29,690 --> 00:49:28,410
would have been the prominent whoo in in

1193
00:49:32,780 --> 00:49:29,700
the UK you

1194
00:49:35,420 --> 00:49:32,790
you were both there at the time but I

1195
00:49:40,550 --> 00:49:35,430
was still I was on the other side ten

1196
00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:40,560
years ago ten years ago in England you

1197
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:41,910
were on the white sheet over your head

1198
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:45,690
and going in old stately manners ly not

1199
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:50,010
quite no but I I think at some point I

1200
00:49:53,510 --> 00:49:51,930
started watching the x-files and just

1201
00:49:55,790 --> 00:49:53,520
got very obsessed with all the

1202
00:49:58,640 --> 00:49:55,800
paranormal stuff and it's only well not

1203
00:50:00,410 --> 00:49:58,650
since I've been in Australia and started

1204
00:50:02,510 --> 00:50:00,420
listening to skeptics guide and that

1205
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:02,520
that I completely did a u-turn in a very

1206
00:50:05,930 --> 00:50:04,530
short space of time so ten years ago in

1207
00:50:07,670 --> 00:50:05,940
England I would have still been reading

1208
00:50:09,350 --> 00:50:07,680
stuff to do with UFOs and ghosts and

1209
00:50:11,890 --> 00:50:09,360
everything like that so you've gone from

1210
00:50:19,090 --> 00:50:11,900
being David to cognitive Julie Anderson

1211
00:50:25,430 --> 00:50:22,850
well I mean 10 years ago there was a lot

1212
00:50:28,670 --> 00:50:25,440
of local wound where I was living 10

1213
00:50:30,590 --> 00:50:28,680
years ago so I was living down in a an

1214
00:50:33,770 --> 00:50:30,600
evil city down in the South of England

1215
00:50:36,620 --> 00:50:33,780
and there were lots of old buildings and

1216
00:50:37,580 --> 00:50:36,630
lots of whoo around that way but yeah

1217
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:37,590
there wasn't anything particularly

1218
00:50:46,340 --> 00:50:44,030
all though I can tell you one story from

1219
00:50:49,010 --> 00:50:46,350
approximately ten years ago over big cat

1220
00:50:50,750 --> 00:50:49,020
sighting it was by the side of a big

1221
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:50,760
motorway near where I used to drive past

1222
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:52,650
for work and this big cat was seen lying

1223
00:50:55,850 --> 00:50:54,570
in the grass so of course immediately

1224
00:50:57,140 --> 00:50:55,860
what they do is they get someone from

1225
00:50:59,870 --> 00:50:57,150
our local zoo to come out with a

1226
00:51:02,210 --> 00:50:59,880
helicopter and as the helicopter comes

1227
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:02,220
down over the big cat it then tumbles

1228
00:51:13,130 --> 00:51:03,510
down the hill because it's actually a

1229
00:51:14,150 --> 00:51:13,140
giant stuffed toy that was an

1230
00:51:16,340 --> 00:51:14,160
interesting thing actually when you look

1231
00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:16,350
back at the skeptics and how most people

1232
00:51:20,180 --> 00:51:18,870
way back when did start off sort of

1233
00:51:22,460 --> 00:51:20,190
believing something actually it's

1234
00:51:25,220 --> 00:51:22,470
nothing like I think my thing was

1235
00:51:27,110 --> 00:51:25,230
Bermuda Triangle way back when and I

1236
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:27,120
think in von daniken appears all the

1237
00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:28,710
time actually I've spoken to so many

1238
00:51:32,570 --> 00:51:30,780
skeptics they say way back when they

1239
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:32,580
used to sort of find von Daniken and

1240
00:51:37,310 --> 00:51:35,010
he's back with ancient aliens and and

1241
00:51:38,690 --> 00:51:37,320
darkus with his hair that write that and

1242
00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:38,700
look they've done ten seasons of that

1243
00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:41,880
show like yes I know that I mean they're

1244
00:51:44,190 --> 00:51:42,430
up

1245
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:44,200
probably they're probably bigger than

1246
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:48,010
Mythbusters in many ways yes because

1247
00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:49,690
they've done many and they're their

1248
00:51:52,530 --> 00:51:51,550
productions are probably cheaper to make

1249
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:52,540
the problem made more money than

1250
00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:54,970
Mythbusters what show are we talking

1251
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:56,950
about there's probably a bit of

1252
00:52:01,500 --> 00:51:58,210
money-making proposition than

1253
00:52:02,730 --> 00:52:01,510
Mythbusters I'd say yeah and that's

1254
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:02,740
something that's happened to because

1255
00:52:07,109 --> 00:52:04,510
Mythbusters has come and gone in ten

1256
00:52:09,690 --> 00:52:07,119
years yes you're right things have come

1257
00:52:11,490 --> 00:52:09,700
and gone since we do it was probably on

1258
00:52:13,470 --> 00:52:11,500
air but my sanity first under

1259
00:52:15,540 --> 00:52:13,480
Mythbusters is probably on air before 10

1260
00:52:19,799 --> 00:52:15,550
years ago but it's certainly gone now it

1261
00:52:21,870 --> 00:52:19,809
was it was on before before but it's

1262
00:52:25,109 --> 00:52:21,880
still going you'll write different hosts

1263
00:52:26,250 --> 00:52:25,119
yes yes oh there's not many skeptical

1264
00:52:31,109 --> 00:52:26,260
programs no are they really

1265
00:52:33,620 --> 00:52:31,119
unfortunately you know Stephen Aviles

1266
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:33,630
spoke about this how you know every time

1267
00:52:41,309 --> 00:52:37,599
he or others try to pitch to produce as

1268
00:52:43,290 --> 00:52:41,319
a skeptical show okay so they discuss

1269
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:43,300
how we'll do the investigation and all

1270
00:52:46,349 --> 00:52:44,650
of that and they say okay but at the end

1271
00:52:47,670 --> 00:52:46,359
you will leave the possibility of goes

1272
00:52:49,890 --> 00:52:47,680
oh really or whatever you leave it open

1273
00:52:52,859 --> 00:52:49,900
right and say well whatever whatever

1274
00:52:55,859 --> 00:52:52,869
conclusion we reach and the producers do

1275
00:52:57,870 --> 00:52:55,869
want to hear of it because it's not you

1276
00:52:59,670 --> 00:52:57,880
know it's not that interesting to they

1277
00:53:01,859 --> 00:52:59,680
see it is not that interesting to the

1278
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:01,869
audience there's a cosmos back with

1279
00:53:07,710 --> 00:53:04,510
Tyson Hall he's coming back for it yes

1280
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:07,720
yes yeah what cost master is that got up

1281
00:53:12,150 --> 00:53:09,970
again yeah but there's another series

1282
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:12,160
with a new deGrasse Tyson yes they're

1283
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:13,510
making another series they're also

1284
00:53:18,450 --> 00:53:16,210
making in search of again know you know

1285
00:53:33,660 --> 00:53:18,460
you know they're making with the guy who

1286
00:53:35,849 --> 00:53:33,670
plays the Spock in the new yes you say

1287
00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:35,859
he's sort of the one who played Spock in

1288
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:39,670
this case oh yeah in search of and I got

1289
00:53:43,700 --> 00:53:41,470
a feeling that it's gonna be more

1290
00:53:45,390 --> 00:53:43,710
ancient aliens than Mythbusters

1291
00:53:46,070 --> 00:53:45,400
scientific actually he said they're

1292
00:53:50,010 --> 00:53:46,080
gonna take a very

1293
00:53:54,780 --> 00:53:52,800
a new way to kill off a primary if

1294
00:53:57,150 --> 00:53:54,790
listeners haven't seen in search of its

1295
00:53:59,340 --> 00:53:57,160
most of us on YouTube please watch the

1296
00:54:04,410 --> 00:53:59,350
Bigfoot one it's hilarious or one

1297
00:54:06,420 --> 00:54:04,420
episode and I couldn't oh yeah it's like

1298
00:54:09,860 --> 00:54:06,430
that that was it my ha I was to watch it

1299
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:09,870
every Sunday it was fantastic you know

1300
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:12,010
no it sounds like it's something I need

1301
00:54:19,790 --> 00:54:17,170
to check out oh boy yeah great stuff it

1302
00:54:25,340 --> 00:54:19,800
had all the drama of My Kitchen Rules

1303
00:54:27,660 --> 00:54:25,350
without the science or an oven or

1304
00:54:29,820 --> 00:54:27,670
discipline and also if you've got a

1305
00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:29,830
chance check out the actual follow-up

1306
00:54:35,550 --> 00:54:33,280
movie to Chariots of the Gods question

1307
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:35,560
mark was done by William Shatner he did

1308
00:54:39,150 --> 00:54:37,450
one about ancient gods or something like

1309
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:39,160
that and he's walking around in it and

1310
00:54:42,420 --> 00:54:41,200
he's a bit of a skeptic these days so he

1311
00:54:44,730 --> 00:54:42,430
must've been on pills back then and

1312
00:54:50,670 --> 00:54:44,740
frankly who can blame him you've seen

1313
00:54:52,260 --> 00:54:50,680
his toupee are you been annoyed the

1314
00:54:53,340 --> 00:54:52,270
whole ancient alien things come back

1315
00:54:55,830 --> 00:54:53,350
again because when you would have gotten

1316
00:54:58,290 --> 00:54:55,840
involved me in the skeptic movement back

1317
00:54:59,850 --> 00:54:58,300
then in ten years ago the ancient alien

1318
00:55:01,650 --> 00:54:59,860
things wasn't a go at all I don't

1319
00:55:03,450 --> 00:55:01,660
remember hearing about 10 years ago 20

1320
00:55:04,650 --> 00:55:03,460
years ago but no ten years I think the

1321
00:55:06,420 --> 00:55:04,660
thing you realize is they're all

1322
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:06,430
cyclical yeah they come and they go

1323
00:55:09,690 --> 00:55:07,930
I mean psychic surgery is probably good

1324
00:55:11,370 --> 00:55:09,700
update an opportunity to come back down

1325
00:55:12,930 --> 00:55:11,380
I haven't seen it but I can't see any

1326
00:55:15,450 --> 00:55:12,940
reason why it won't and they come and

1327
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:15,460
they go these classic topics like flat

1328
00:55:19,230 --> 00:55:17,530
earth like the Yowies like yeah Loch

1329
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:19,240
Ness monster hasn't had a big run lately

1330
00:55:24,390 --> 00:55:22,330
I think it's about time yeah UFOs they

1331
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:24,400
come and go a bit and I think all of

1332
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:26,170
these things are very cyclical people

1333
00:55:29,490 --> 00:55:27,370
get bored with the latest one and they

1334
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:29,500
go back to you know a sort of classic

1335
00:55:35,550 --> 00:55:33,010
coke version of of whoo and they just

1336
00:55:37,650 --> 00:55:35,560
pick it up so yeah I think one of the

1337
00:55:38,910 --> 00:55:37,660
criticisms are I often hear aimed at

1338
00:55:40,830 --> 00:55:38,920
skeptics is that are you pick on

1339
00:55:42,090 --> 00:55:40,840
consumer fraud net cloth sort of thing

1340
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:42,100
why don't you go for the big ones like

1341
00:55:48,510 --> 00:55:44,290
Islam the Catholic Church and stuff like

1342
00:55:50,580 --> 00:55:48,520
that yes Marty because Islam is not a

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claim and we could go after specific

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00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:53,380
claims but what we can't what what do

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00:55:56,940 --> 00:55:55,510
you go after like well the Catholics

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00:56:00,580 --> 00:55:56,950
have got the whole transubstantiation

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00:56:03,370 --> 00:56:00,590
thing yeah but okay so

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00:56:06,490 --> 00:56:03,380
but let's assume that we you know grab

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00:56:08,380 --> 00:56:06,500
some samples from some from of the wafer

1350
00:56:11,710 --> 00:56:08,390
inside somebody's mouth while those

1351
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:11,720
supposedly it's becoming Jesus flesh

1352
00:56:16,090 --> 00:56:13,730
what then so that that will prove that

1353
00:56:18,910 --> 00:56:16,100
that one specific instance it didn't

1354
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:18,920
actually transubstantiated it's I just

1355
00:56:23,530 --> 00:56:21,530
don't think it's worth spending so much

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00:56:24,940 --> 00:56:23,540
time there are other groups may not who

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00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:24,950
are better equipped to take all these

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00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:26,210
topics and we are then we can

1359
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:28,130
concentrate on the classic wu and

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00:56:33,460 --> 00:56:30,710
consumerism and homeopathy and all the

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00:56:35,530 --> 00:56:33,470
things that we we seem to excel at is

1362
00:56:37,450 --> 00:56:35,540
there an area you reckon that could be

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00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:37,460
done in the future that you think we

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00:56:47,350 --> 00:56:43,690
should get onto that i want to know if

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00:56:50,740 --> 00:56:47,360
the girl from aqua really is dead almost

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00:56:53,860 --> 00:56:50,750
replaced by her twin oh that's that's a

1367
00:56:55,980 --> 00:56:53,870
21st century mccartney paul is dead

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00:56:59,920 --> 00:56:55,990
thing that's probably sing i I think

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00:57:01,780 --> 00:56:59,930
having seen the Vengaboys that that is

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00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:01,790
highly likely well also you'll notice

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00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:04,310
that after a quid the the soundtrack

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00:57:09,550 --> 00:57:06,170
from sliding doors they went on a very

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00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:09,560
melancholy turn I think that's around a

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00:57:27,310 --> 00:57:23,690
pilot point yeah dr. Jones dr. Jones see

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00:57:28,630 --> 00:57:27,320
there you go I know the lesser-known you

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00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:28,640
think you should get until you can't Lee

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00:57:31,390 --> 00:57:29,690
tell us cuz you it's coming up on

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00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:31,400
upcoming episodes of the check out

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[Music]

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no no these are considered now it's just

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00:57:46,709 --> 00:57:46,029
not like no go no and I've got no idea

1382
00:57:49,349 --> 00:57:46,719
what I'm saying

1383
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:49,359
I think the dog the dog it where I think

1384
00:57:52,769 --> 00:57:50,650
we'll do is we'll play the last of the

1385
00:57:54,239 --> 00:57:52,779
the the messages we've had from around

1386
00:57:56,249 --> 00:57:54,249
the world and we'll come back to wrap up

1387
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:56,259
the think tank and see how many of these

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00:58:02,339 --> 00:57:57,609
were recorded in a small concrete

1389
00:58:04,890 --> 00:58:02,349
building deep underground hi Richard Joe

1390
00:58:06,660 --> 00:58:04,900
Penna new here nearly 10 years ago I

1391
00:58:08,579 --> 00:58:06,670
appeared on the zone as a reporter

1392
00:58:11,029 --> 00:58:08,589
discussing a letter on homeopathy in the

1393
00:58:13,589 --> 00:58:11,039
London Journal of Medicine from 1851

1394
00:58:14,789 --> 00:58:13,599
suffice to say I think this told us that

1395
00:58:17,249 --> 00:58:14,799
there'll be a need for skeptical

1396
00:58:19,799 --> 00:58:17,259
activist along into the future and thus

1397
00:58:22,019 --> 00:58:19,809
I see the skeptic zone reaching 5000

1398
00:58:23,849 --> 00:58:22,029
episodes one day I'm miss doing the

1399
00:58:26,130 --> 00:58:23,859
think-tank with you dr. H G and Iran

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00:58:28,019 --> 00:58:26,140
which will always a scream thank you for

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00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:28,029
providing a wonderful skeptical podcast

1402
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:29,710
and congratulations on reaching this

1403
00:58:36,059 --> 00:58:32,890
little milestone of longevity Richard

1404
00:58:38,190 --> 00:58:36,069
Saunders she's we've been doing this for

1405
00:58:41,489 --> 00:58:38,200
a long time haven't we I know

1406
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:41,499
skepticality hasn't been going as often

1407
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:42,400
as it used to

1408
00:58:50,759 --> 00:58:46,089
that'll change soon so I am NOT gonna

1409
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:50,769
catch up to you anytime soon but I can't

1410
00:58:54,989 --> 00:58:52,930
wait to see you again I have to have you

1411
00:58:57,029 --> 00:58:54,999
come back to drank on when the first

1412
00:59:00,180 --> 00:58:57,039
time you came I think you were septic

1413
00:59:04,349 --> 00:59:00,190
tank still and then the next time he

1414
00:59:07,219 --> 00:59:04,359
came you're a skeptic zone so congrats

1415
00:59:10,349 --> 00:59:07,229
on all the shows many more to come

1416
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,359
see you soon Richard hi this is Mike

1417
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:12,400
Alice and Marsh from the skeptics with a

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00:59:15,809 --> 00:59:13,690
K podcast we just want to say

1419
00:59:20,759 --> 00:59:15,819
congratulations to the sceptic zone 500

1420
00:59:22,979 --> 00:59:20,769
Shores that's like 20 years of us to get

1421
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:22,989
there ever one of us will die first I

1422
00:59:27,930 --> 00:59:24,670
mean we've just literally just finished

1423
00:59:30,269 --> 00:59:27,940
recording an hour and a half long show

1424
00:59:32,459 --> 00:59:30,279
which is mostly just you marsh rambling

1425
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:32,469
I was it was it became more and more me

1426
00:59:39,390 --> 00:59:35,049
because I had V the notes of what we

1427
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:39,400
were doing and Alice got bored but no

1428
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:40,960
one gets bored listening to the sceptics

1429
00:59:44,729 --> 00:59:42,609
I'll never do it's a brilliant brilliant

1430
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:44,739
show congratulations to everyone

1431
00:59:49,380 --> 00:59:46,569
involved and I'll look forward to the

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00:59:51,750 --> 00:59:49,390
next 500 episodes

1433
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:51,760
500 episodes ago when Richard took the

1434
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:54,130
mic he made a little podcast thing which

1435
00:59:58,650 --> 00:59:56,530
people seem to like now here we are much

1436
01:00:01,350 --> 00:59:58,660
later and the skeptic zone still rockin

1437
01:00:05,790 --> 01:00:01,360
congrats and thanks for having me with

1438
01:00:08,820 --> 01:00:05,800
love from Shelley stockin hi Mandy noble

1439
01:00:12,420 --> 01:00:08,830
diet sceptic here to congratulate

1440
01:00:15,780 --> 01:00:12,430
Richard I'm recording 500 episodes of

1441
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:15,790
the skeptic zone podcast thank you

1442
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:16,330
Richard

1443
01:00:21,290 --> 01:00:18,490
for providing this great platform for

1444
01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:21,300
science fun and critical thinking and

1445
01:00:26,340 --> 01:00:24,310
this weekend Richard when you run down

1446
01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:26,350
the stairs to see what is to eat in the

1447
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:29,680
kitchen I hope you find a really big

1448
01:00:35,730 --> 01:00:33,010
skeptic zone cake to celebrate hollow

1449
01:00:38,340 --> 01:00:35,740
skeptic zone listeners and hello Richard

1450
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:38,350
it's Joe alabaster here offering my

1451
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:40,630
heartiest congratulations on Episode

1452
01:00:46,170 --> 01:00:44,410
five hundred now listeners I've seen the

1453
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:46,180
amount of work that Richard goes to for

1454
01:00:50,010 --> 01:00:48,490
each episode of the show keeping on top

1455
01:00:52,740 --> 01:00:50,020
of what's going on in skeptical news

1456
01:00:54,810 --> 01:00:52,750
attending events finding so many people

1457
01:00:57,090 --> 01:00:54,820
to interview editing the show promoting

1458
01:01:00,260 --> 01:00:57,100
the show and know that he's now done

1459
01:01:02,580 --> 01:01:00,270
this 500 times absolutely mind-blowing

1460
01:01:04,260 --> 01:01:02,590
well there's another thing that he does

1461
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:04,270
related to the saurian that I'd like to

1462
01:01:08,310 --> 01:01:06,310
mention quickly for those of us who've

1463
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:08,320
worked with him on the show he's given

1464
01:01:13,230 --> 01:01:10,990
us opportunities to learn and refine new

1465
01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:13,240
skills such as reporting annunciated

1466
01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:15,790
editing and interviewing and to meet

1467
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:17,950
some fantastic people that's you dear

1468
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:19,930
listeners to have some interesting

1469
01:01:24,660 --> 01:01:22,210
experiences attending psychic exposures

1470
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:24,670
and mind body wallet festivals and to

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01:01:29,010 --> 01:01:26,170
make some friendships and have a lot of

1472
01:01:31,350 --> 01:01:29,020
laughs so for that and for bringing us a

1473
01:01:33,860 --> 01:01:31,360
podcast of frankly fantastic quality

1474
01:01:37,380 --> 01:01:33,870
week after week thank you Richard and

1475
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:37,390
congratulations again when I heard that

1476
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:39,370
the skeptic zone had a big milestone

1477
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:41,890
episode coming up I assumed it was a

1478
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:43,930
strong number something like seven or

1479
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:46,000
eight hundred as hosts Richard Saunders

1480
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:48,250
is so much older than me and I'm only

1481
01:01:52,710 --> 01:01:50,410
into the six hundreds but when I heard

1482
01:01:55,860 --> 01:01:52,720
that his milestone was only to celebrate

1483
01:01:58,590 --> 01:01:55,870
a round number not a large one I said oh

1484
01:02:00,810 --> 01:01:58,600
how quaint so I do want to wish the

1485
01:02:02,609 --> 01:02:00,820
skeptic zone a charming and adorable

1486
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:02,619
little 500

1487
01:02:07,019 --> 01:02:04,089
a number that most of the leading

1488
01:02:08,970 --> 01:02:07,029
podcast passed years ago Richard had

1489
01:02:11,460 --> 01:02:08,980
called me not long ago to express his

1490
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:11,470
misgivings at not having been able to be

1491
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:14,559
competitively productive I told him 500

1492
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:16,569
is a good start and a number to be proud

1493
01:02:21,420 --> 01:02:18,880
of not bashful about I want to be

1494
01:02:24,089 --> 01:02:21,430
encouraging and say stick with it that

1495
01:02:26,249 --> 01:02:24,099
number will only climb from here and all

1496
01:02:28,529 --> 01:02:26,259
of us up on the top shelf will keep a

1497
01:02:30,809 --> 01:02:28,539
seat open for you and look forward to

1498
01:02:34,049 --> 01:02:30,819
that day when your milestones are real

1499
01:02:38,370 --> 01:02:34,059
and not merely symbolic I'm Brian

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01:02:40,829 --> 01:02:38,380
Dunning from skeptoid comm so Richard

1501
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:40,839
the future the now the time I'm you must

1502
01:02:48,539 --> 01:02:46,569
be giddy with excitement yes I can't no

1503
01:02:50,579 --> 01:02:48,549
I I don't know I mean next week will be

1504
01:02:51,420 --> 01:02:50,589
episode 501 that's all I'm thinking

1505
01:02:53,489 --> 01:02:51,430
about right now

1506
01:02:56,190 --> 01:02:53,499
well cause everyone's going to know The

1507
01:02:57,839 --> 01:02:56,200
Skeptical Cats has been two pairs of

1508
01:02:59,789 --> 01:02:57,849
reciprocal cats over these over the 10

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01:03:01,470 --> 01:02:59,799
years and the new ones are following in

1510
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:01,480
the old ones footsteps paw prints

1511
01:03:05,069 --> 01:03:03,130
whatever they do whatever cats do more

1512
01:03:06,930 --> 01:03:05,079
they do more they actually tried to help

1513
01:03:09,029 --> 01:03:06,940
edit the show by Limpy up on my computer

1514
01:03:19,049 --> 01:03:09,039
and sometimes typing in very strange

1515
01:03:20,789 --> 01:03:19,059
things like cats were more like

1516
01:03:22,739 --> 01:03:20,799
producers they sort of did fact-checking

1517
01:03:26,420 --> 01:03:22,749
and stuff like that my background they

1518
01:03:27,930 --> 01:03:26,430
were behind the glass panel that's right

1519
01:03:31,489 --> 01:03:27,940
as always

1520
01:03:33,509 --> 01:03:31,499
sometimes I it's always sometimes

1521
01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:33,519
sometimes I don't know what's coming up

1522
01:03:37,170 --> 01:03:35,680
next but things usually come along

1523
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:37,180
you've done a lot of work over the years

1524
01:03:40,109 --> 01:03:38,650
thank you very much Maynard for all your

1525
01:03:42,390 --> 01:03:40,119
work of course well it's interesting you

1526
01:03:44,309 --> 01:03:42,400
just kind of turn up and a lot people

1527
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:44,319
heard the skeptic zone and it's usually

1528
01:03:47,999 --> 01:03:46,720
bit of an intro to what's going on then

1529
01:03:55,109 --> 01:03:48,009
of course when they find out what I'm on

1530
01:03:56,819 --> 01:03:55,119
about I'm just waved off it's been great

1531
01:03:58,440 --> 01:03:56,829
to do a think tank again it's been years

1532
01:04:00,150 --> 01:03:58,450
since we've done a proper think tank in

1533
01:04:01,890 --> 01:04:00,160
the owl Club at the end of the street no

1534
01:04:04,109 --> 01:04:01,900
bus announcements what a what a shame

1535
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:04,119
and maybe we can do one again be here in

1536
01:04:10,110 --> 01:04:05,440
the not-too-distant future that would be

1537
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:10,120
really cool 500 program thank you

1538
01:04:17,300 --> 01:04:15,610
I was and as we used to do and we used

1539
01:04:33,690 --> 01:04:17,310
to sign off yeah

1540
01:04:37,090 --> 01:04:33,700
[Music]

1541
01:04:39,940 --> 01:04:37,100
hi this is dr. Pamela gay from astronomy

1542
01:04:41,830 --> 01:04:39,950
cast each week Fraser Cain and I take

1543
01:04:44,050 --> 01:04:41,840
our listeners on a fact-based journey

1544
01:04:46,780 --> 01:04:44,060
through the cosmos with our weekly

1545
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:46,790
podcast we explain not just what we know

1546
01:04:52,450 --> 01:04:49,610
but how we know what we know about this

1547
01:04:54,910 --> 01:04:52,460
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1548
01:04:57,310 --> 01:04:54,920
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1549
01:05:00,020 --> 01:04:57,320
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1550
01:05:15,210 --> 01:05:00,030
download podcasts see online

1551
01:05:22,770 --> 01:05:21,120
ah Richard I feel like a 500 episode old

1552
01:05:25,530 --> 01:05:22,780
man that's it

1553
01:05:28,109 --> 01:05:25,540
we did it we did 500 that was five

1554
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:28,119
episode 500 thank you to all the people

1555
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:30,730
who you heard in today's episode and all

1556
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:32,050
those greetings weren't they nice from

1557
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:34,089
all around the world is fabulous to

1558
01:05:38,069 --> 01:05:35,890
realize how much a little humble little

1559
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:38,079
podcast in Sydney with humble little

1560
01:05:43,109 --> 01:05:40,210
Richard is just doing his thing every

1561
01:05:45,540 --> 01:05:43,119
week you and I you and I ten years ago

1562
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:45,550
just in a little room and oh let's do

1563
01:05:49,470 --> 01:05:47,290
another podcast I mean we wouldn't even

1564
01:05:58,260 --> 01:05:49,480
adolescence then we were just we were

1565
01:05:59,849 --> 01:05:58,270
pre pretty full of beans but how so much

1566
01:06:02,460 --> 01:05:59,859
and thank you to everyone who's been

1567
01:06:05,069 --> 01:06:02,470
thanking listening and downloading every

1568
01:06:08,370 --> 01:06:05,079
week and there are people of course who

1569
01:06:10,050 --> 01:06:08,380
have heard every episode Wow and and all

1570
01:06:12,420 --> 01:06:10,060
the people who over the 10 years have

1571
01:06:14,250 --> 01:06:12,430
contributed financially to support the

1572
01:06:16,410 --> 01:06:14,260
skeptic zone it's just it's meant the

1573
01:06:18,450 --> 01:06:16,420
show is written has reached 500 it keeps

1574
01:06:19,890 --> 01:06:18,460
it going yeah I mean I would have

1575
01:06:22,020 --> 01:06:19,900
contributed more but I've actually had

1576
01:06:24,420 --> 01:06:22,030
to buy about 15 new iPhones over the

1577
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:24,430
last 10 years just to fit all the

1578
01:06:29,130 --> 01:06:26,770
downloads of the podcast onto them my

1579
01:06:30,870 --> 01:06:29,140
memory is not big enough so so yeah

1580
01:06:33,210 --> 01:06:30,880
besides that I would be supported a lot

1581
01:06:35,819 --> 01:06:33,220
more but so I never mind I understand

1582
01:06:44,190 --> 01:06:35,829
the history now coming up on show 1000

1583
01:06:48,780 --> 01:06:44,200
no no think about it I've been doing

1584
01:06:51,770 --> 01:06:48,790
this show for a fifth of my life that's

1585
01:06:53,819 --> 01:06:51,780
amazing but you want to skip the show

1586
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:53,829
next week we'll just so sure what about

1587
01:06:58,829 --> 01:06:56,650
now maybe five oh one let's let's just

1588
01:07:00,359 --> 01:06:58,839
start off a little Jo step-by-step I

1589
01:07:02,839 --> 01:07:00,369
think five no one's probably a good idea

1590
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:02,849
but for now this is Richard Saunders and

1591
01:07:07,230 --> 01:07:05,770
Stefan Soyka signing off from Sydney

1592
01:07:12,250 --> 01:07:07,240
Australia

1593
01:07:12,260 --> 01:07:26,640
[Music]

1594
01:07:34,260 --> 01:07:32,260
Hayate may not here Wow 500 years of the

1595
01:07:36,340 --> 01:07:34,270
sceptic zone who would have thought I

1596
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:36,350
remember the first time I was on the

1597
01:07:40,810 --> 01:07:38,690
skipping zone over or no acts I don't

1598
01:07:44,590 --> 01:07:40,820
remember I'm just making that up but all

1599
01:07:49,030 --> 01:07:44,600
the great times and loves that Richard

1600
01:07:52,630 --> 01:07:49,040
and I had there was that time we went to

1601
01:07:59,770 --> 01:07:52,640
Aldi and we we saw an orange that was

1602
01:08:02,770 --> 01:07:59,780
great there was the time we went to a

1603
01:08:08,770 --> 01:08:02,780
laundromat and we did washing that was

1604
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:08,780
absolutely exciting I once told Regina

1605
01:08:16,690 --> 01:08:10,910
ended his wiper blades changed on his

1606
01:08:18,790 --> 01:08:16,700
Camry how we laughed at that there's too

1607
01:08:22,660 --> 01:08:18,800
many to think of and there's all people

1608
01:08:25,540 --> 01:08:22,670
we met like all the Bryan's we've met

1609
01:08:27,970 --> 01:08:25,550
that time you and I met Brian Cox and we

1610
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:27,980
tried to get him to say monkey but he

1611
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:28,640
punched you

1612
01:08:32,530 --> 01:08:31,010
oh hell we laughed Brian Dunning there

1613
01:08:33,610 --> 01:08:32,540
was at Thomond Brian Dunning Brian

1614
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:33,620
Dunning you've been doing this for many

1615
01:08:36,310 --> 01:08:34,850
years now do you think the world is

1616
01:08:38,350 --> 01:08:36,320
getting more rational or we're getting

1617
01:08:40,270 --> 01:08:38,360
more kooky oh I don't think it's going

1618
01:08:42,220 --> 01:08:40,280
anywhere I think I think I'm gonna be in

1619
01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:42,230
business a long long time what's the

1620
01:08:46,750 --> 01:08:43,970
best rational way to see a path through

1621
01:08:49,150 --> 01:08:46,760
in this odd world we live in Brian be

1622
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:49,160
positive don't burn bridges don't get

1623
01:08:52,450 --> 01:08:51,050
people mad at you don't annoy people

1624
01:08:54,220 --> 01:08:52,460
don't go around being holier-than-thou

1625
01:08:56,110 --> 01:08:54,230
and acting like you're the only one

1626
01:08:57,970 --> 01:08:56,120
who's right and you're the only one who

1627
01:09:00,100 --> 01:08:57,980
knows anything because you're not do you

1628
01:09:04,060 --> 01:09:00,110
think Richard Dawkins suffers from that

1629
01:09:05,230 --> 01:09:04,070
sometimes well he's easy I mean that's

1630
01:09:05,980 --> 01:09:05,240
respectfully but he's basically a

1631
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:05,990
sideshow

1632
01:09:10,150 --> 01:09:08,930
he's a atheist activist he's not out

1633
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:10,160
there trying to make friends

1634
01:09:15,430 --> 01:09:12,710
his work is really controversial and it

1635
01:09:17,770 --> 01:09:15,440
sells look it up go online check a

1636
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:17,780
couple of sources go to a library no no

1637
01:09:20,260 --> 01:09:19,010
no you should only listen to some

1638
01:09:22,900 --> 01:09:20,270
podcast and you should believe

1639
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:22,910
everything he tells you oh yeah very

1640
01:09:27,220 --> 01:09:25,130
emotional moment Tom I talked to George

1641
01:09:31,450 --> 01:09:27,230
Arab after that show thing it he said

1642
01:09:34,420 --> 01:09:31,460
this I with an absolute dingo eatin

1643
01:09:35,950 --> 01:09:34,430
sense of joy hey what do you like at the

1644
01:09:37,900 --> 01:09:35,960
doctor as a skeptical guy who believes

1645
01:09:38,910 --> 01:09:37,910
in science and reason used to must poop

1646
01:09:40,590 --> 01:09:38,920
yourself when some test

1647
01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:40,600
coming back something that completely

1648
01:09:46,890 --> 01:09:43,060
irrational my complete of rationality is

1649
01:09:48,990 --> 01:09:46,900
sort of providing myself a silent moment

1650
01:09:50,610 --> 01:09:49,000
of hope before I open the envelope or

1651
01:09:52,590 --> 01:09:50,620
before I answer the phone so you know

1652
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:52,600
results are coming in there is that one

1653
01:09:58,410 --> 01:09:56,050
second of dread hope whatever where you

1654
01:09:59,430 --> 01:09:58,420
know that whatever you're feeling

1655
01:10:01,200 --> 01:09:59,440
whatever you're thinking whatever you're

1656
01:10:03,810 --> 01:10:01,210
wanting will not affect the ink which is

1657
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:03,820
already printed on this page this is a

1658
01:10:10,669 --> 01:10:06,640
touch quantum absolutely yeah totally

1659
01:10:12,959 --> 01:10:10,679
total total total trading or trading or

1660
01:10:15,120 --> 01:10:12,969
it's just it's not a cat it's just you

1661
01:10:17,550 --> 01:10:15,130
know fingers up your poop he's certainly

1662
01:10:20,459 --> 01:10:17,560
a deep guy and that time I interviewed

1663
01:10:25,530 --> 01:10:20,469
dr. Lisa Randall and it didn't go so

1664
01:10:29,970 --> 01:10:25,540
well oh we have got a clip for that

1665
01:10:32,189 --> 01:10:29,980
sorry but seriously the skeptic zone

1666
01:10:34,470 --> 01:10:32,199
over the 500 years it's been on it is

1667
01:10:35,970 --> 01:10:34,480
just the premier science show that I

1668
01:10:38,850 --> 01:10:35,980
listen to and I get all my information

1669
01:10:39,570 --> 01:10:38,860
from it which is why I'm not welcome at

1670
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:39,580
University

1671
01:10:45,570 --> 01:10:42,610
good work Richard long may use sale and

1672
01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:45,580
all that sale in you remember that